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Hi, Our village hall has main double doors with an internal push bar mechanism and key-operated external access. If the door is locked with a key and opened by the push bar from inside it will lock again when it closes. This is fine most of the time but occasionally the hall is accessed by another door and we want to be able to unlock the main door from inside without a key. Is there a product available that would do this? I'm imagining a set up with
This would allow people who came in to lock or unlock the main doors for general access without having to have a key for this door. Grateful for any advice. Thanks
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Couldn't you use the key to enter from the outside and use the push bar to exit from the inside?
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Hi Max Yes, there is such a solution. The Exidor 284 panic bar for double doors - has a hold back (aka dogging feature) which allows the bolts to be set in the withdrawn position allowing access without key from inside and outside. - can be used with a key operated outside access device Exidor 302 - will, of course, always open fromthe inside even when locked Any questions, please let me know Harry
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Thanks, yes. But the idea is to be able to lock/unlock the door from inside without a key. Currently pushing the bar will still mean the door is locked when it closes.
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Thanks Harry, That is a useful product. Do you know if it is available for double rebated doors? Or can a hold-back feature be added to an existing push bar? Cheers, Max
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Hi Max, could you please upload a photo? I can't quite understand your concern regards rebated door. Obviously you will have one leading leaf. The hold-back feature is integral to the push bar system. Harry
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Thanks Harry, The exodir 284 is not designed for rebated doors and the 285 (which IS designed for rebated doors) does not come with a hold-back option unfortunately. The active leaf has a push-bar that operates a latch. Would I be able to replace this single door mechanism with a new push-bar that has a hold-back function? The other door would remain operated by a bolt mechanism. Cheers, Max
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Are talking about a dogging facility? A dogging facility is a means of holding the latch bolts retracted to permit free passage through the door until released when the door is then secured. The legislation BS EN 1125 specifies that for fire/smoke door assemblies the panic device shall not include any form of dogging mechanism. Therefore such devices can only be used on escape doors.
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Hi Max You are right, the 285 panic bar for double doors is the correct solution for rebated double doors. After a bit more digging I also found out that there is actually an accessory to achieve the hold-back/dogging functionality. The Exidor 299 allows the retrofitting of a holdback. Please see below.
If you are interested, I we can get you a quote. Please direct message me. Harry
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Hi Harry, Thanks for your response, although I don't think the accessory would work on the active leaf of our door - as there is no bolt mechanism, just the latch shown in the photos. I have found a latch-mechanism active leaf pushbar with a hold-back facility elsewhere and will get this to replace the existing push bar. Thanks for your help tho. Cheers, Max
Link to commentShare on other sitesJoin the conversation You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Can a panic bar be locked?Safety codes and regulations mandate that the release mechanism be activated in the push bar. There is a way to lock the panic door with a unique key. This key is a hex-shaped key. You can also use a mortise cylinder key to do the job.
How does a push bar door work?You simply push a rod, a bar or other activator, the latch mechanism is retracted and you are able to push the door open. These types of devices function differently than a typical door lock, in that they are designed to allow exit without the use of a key or any rotary motion of any kind.
How do you bar a door without a lock?In a pinch, a simple fork can be used to temporarily lock a door that inwardly opens. To secure the door, bend the tines of the fork so that the tips of the tines fit into the door latch and the rest of the fork can comfortably remain in the gap between the door and the doorframe when the door is closed.
How does a panic bar lock work?How it Works. Panic bars consist of a flat, horizontal bar attached to the inside of an outward-opening door. This flat bar retracts a latch mechanism when pushed, unlocking the door for fast exit. Doors using a classic crash bar require no knowledge or keys to operate and are ADA-compliant for handicapped usage.
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